Category Archives: Perfection

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The Gospel in 4 Points – from John Wesley – including sinless perfection

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John Wesley, a famous preacher in the 1700s, preached the whole gospel in just 4 points. He created a movement, and from that, many movements that last to this day.

These 4 points is what he taught all his helpers. That is what they preached.  It has a lot of power today for everyone.

It is particularly important for us, who are reconsidering sonship doctrine because he was the first person to preach sinless perfection. The holiness movements came out of the Wesleyan movements. To build well, it is a good idea to understand the foundations.

 

Here is this same message in  Spanish. El mismo mensaje en Espanol.

Here is a movie on John Wesley, that will give you a good feel for him and his work. What they portray about his time in Georgia with the girl is very uncertain.  Most probably it is souped up for movie purposes.  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1053946/

Here is John Wesley’s sermon #40 on sinless perfection, in print form. http://www.godrules.net/library/wsermons/wsermons40.htm

Here is the same sermon in digital audio form: https://wvww.whdl.org/john-wesleys-sermons

 

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Death to Self OR The Crucified Life

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Wow! This was a long time in coming, but it may be the most important episode. Preaching “death to self” or (surprise to me) more properly “The Crucified Life” as good news! Of course, we are crucified with Christ, but trying to become dead as a means to obtain merit can be dangerous.  Of utmost importance in terms of being saved, not losing your salvation, having a good life, and not exasperating your children. Worth more teaching, which will be forthcoming — sometime.  Please do check back. In the meantime, please share.

Here is Kevin Zadai’s message on “The Crucified Life.

While “death to self” was central in Move doctrine, there are few Move documents online. Here is one example: The Son of Man Must Be Crucified by Sam Fife.

We do have a message on this topic in Spanish here.

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What Does a Mature Son of God look like?

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What in the world would a mature son of God look like? Today, let’s try for a clear idea of what a mature Son of God looks like. This answers “what about eschatology?” and “What about 7M?” Quick mention of Rev 12 and I Thessalonians 5. What does a Son of God look like? Like JESUS. See Acts 10:38.

About time the pattern didn’t get ignored.

So let’s see every one de-oppressed. How about that?